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Wake-Up, Shake-Up, Thrive! (with Ellen Kocher and Dominique Ben Dhaou)

I LOVED this conversation with Ellen Kocher and Dominique Ben Dhaou. As the co-authors of the book Wake-Up, Shake-Up, Thrive!: How to Lift Up Your Life in Your 50’s and Beyond, they brought tons of information and inspiration on creating and embracing a vibrant life after 50, with a particular focus on work and careers.

We discussed:

  • How ageing is regarded in different countries, both personally and in the workplace.
  • Myths and stereotypes about ageing and careers.
  • The personal and professional advantages that come with growing older.
  • Getting beyond being set in our emotions.
  • Growing older vs getting old.
  • How views of retirement are changing.
  • Rethinking careers after 50.

You can connect with Ellen and Dominique at their website: or on Instagram: @WakeUpShakeUpThrive.

As they say, “Don’t grow old waiting.” The time is now so let’s get started!


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